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Post by darkashelin on Oct 20, 2010 20:55:35 GMT 1
Hello, I think it is a good idea to get yourself a fresh new website design. Facts is the biggest comics, anime and sci-fi festival in the whole Benelux, so I think it definately deserves a website as awesome as Facts itself. I am talking about a flashy design like these for example, but ofcourse with an theme fitting Facts: www.peminoz.com/allananova.com/www.deviantart.com/download/148493774/anime_sets_by_SevenClips.png(None of these designs are mine and I don't claim them, they are merely nice examples) If you are not fond of paying a lot of money for a webdesigner and programmer, I am currently in a course specific for webdesign, so I could perhaps work together with some colleges and do it for a cheap price. Ofcourse, this is all up to you guys if you want to have a fresh layout. But I definately think it's a good choice, and it will attract more customers. Greetz from Belgium  |
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Post by grievous444 on Oct 20, 2010 21:29:18 GMT 1
Sorry to say, but those sites suck in design. I liked it how it is now. Why change something that is already good and familiar amongst our NURD's and nerds. Leave the homepage alone.
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Post by dogsoldiersthingy on Oct 20, 2010 22:05:40 GMT 1
I honestly didn't even look at your designs, but I already know that I'll prefer it the way it is. I hate it when a website changes (like imdb, I still hate the changes they made a while ago). Why fix something that ain't broke?
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Post by Totsuya on Oct 21, 2010 0:01:21 GMT 1
Now, this is something up my alley of interest. (Yes, I can finally post again)
First of all, I'd say you don't need to worry about it.
I know the website is a bit outdated and it might be a good thing to give it a bit of new wind.
But perhaps the forum isn't really the good place to blurt this out. (Perhaps they might be already working on it or it just isn't the right place to ask this kind of thing?)
The examples you gave don't suck, don't get that wrong, but they are more blog-websites than presentational websites.
The purpose here is to give information and also attract, but not to give a timeline of events that the FACTS team is working on.
They do post News-messages, it's an important part, but not the full essential one.
So the blog-designs don't really fit in on the profile here.
Another note also is, which previous persons proved, to not change the full structure of a website when it's liked, but to just make sure some things might be higlighted better.
So yah, but I do encourage you to look around, perhaps first start off with small tasks of only making parts of websites before attacking the mission of changing a whole website.
Or show some examples of what you made.
A fellow-webdesigner and java-lover
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Post by reaperunique on Oct 21, 2010 9:38:35 GMT 1
indeed those weren't the pefect examples: now these are great sites: www.natsucon.org/ (some little mistakes here and there but certanly not bad) 2010.tedxathens.com/you can (easily) change the layout without changing the overall use of the site. |
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Post by grievous444 on Oct 21, 2010 17:45:14 GMT 1
To much scrolling for a homepage. I hate scrolling. (Yes, I'm lazy ;D) |
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Post by taranis on Oct 21, 2010 21:09:21 GMT 1
(like imdb, I still hate the changes they made a while ago). Why fix something that ain't broke? A little off topic but there's a solution to that. In IMDB, go to you account, click on 'site preferences' under 'Personalize' and then check 'Show previous title and name page design (reference view)'. That changes it back to what it was before the change. |
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Post by dogsoldiersthingy on Oct 21, 2010 21:18:57 GMT 1
(like imdb, I still hate the changes they made a while ago). Why fix something that ain't broke? A little off topic but there's a solution to that. In IMDB, go to you account, click on 'site preferences' under 'Personalize' and then check 'Show previous title and name page design (reference view)'. That changes it back to what it was before the change. Yeah, I did that  but that wasn't possible last but one time they made some major changes. |
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Post by olorin on Oct 22, 2010 9:46:21 GMT 1
Really bad examples, but I do agree that facts needs a better website and forum. The website is extremely cluttered, looks like something that was designed 12 years ago and has quite a few bits of bad english grammar. It's also weird that a website for such a big convention uses proboards instead of a regular forum on the facts server. (like phpBB or vBulletin for instance) Good thing the actual convention is fun |
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Post by darkashelin on Oct 22, 2010 18:57:21 GMT 1
Now, this is something up my alley of interest. (Yes, I can finally post again) First of all, I'd say you don't need to worry about it. I know the website is a bit outdated and it might be a good thing to give it a bit of new wind. But perhaps the forum isn't really the good place to blurt this out. (Perhaps they might be already working on it or it just isn't the right place to ask this kind of thing?) The examples you gave don't suck, don't get that wrong, but they are more blog-websites than presentational websites. The purpose here is to give information and also attract, but not to give a timeline of events that the FACTS team is working on. They do post News-messages, it's an important part, but not the full essential one. So the blog-designs don't really fit in on the profile here. Another note also is, which previous persons proved, to not change the full structure of a website when it's liked, but to just make sure some things might be higlighted better. So yah, but I do encourage you to look around, perhaps first start off with small tasks of only making parts of websites before attacking the mission of changing a whole website. Or show some examples of what you made. A fellow-webdesigner and java-lover Ofcourse I know it are different websites with different contents, but I just ment the general design, not everything on it. And also, I'm just suggesting to change it, I'm not trying to get them to hire me. Really bad examples, but I do agree that facts needs a better website and forum. The website is extremely cluttered, looks like something that was designed 12 years ago and has quite a few bits of bad english grammar. It's also weird that a website for such a big convention uses proboards instead of a regular forum on the facts server. (like phpBB or vBulletin for instance) Good thing the actual convention is fun Exactly, I'm really surprised that there's ANYONE that likes this design O.o (no offense to those posters), the design is really outdated, and not very user friendly. Even the forum is messy, I can't even figure out where to change my signature and avatar (usability?). EDIT: I found out where it was, but it's quite hidden and not where users would look for it :/ |
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Post by Myka on Oct 28, 2010 13:07:38 GMT 1
Well it's true that you grow used to the website. But indeed. It is somewhat of a pain when you're a first-timer.
There are a whole set of features that still make me sigh each time i need to find/change something.
You're site designs are nice. But in my opinion F.A.C.T.S needs a fitting design. Not too much rubbisch and an overload of information on one page. If best there should be a nice structure (menu?) which will seem logical and fast.
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Post by drunkwookie on Oct 28, 2010 14:45:15 GMT 1
the facts-site is great, the only problem is that they don't upgrade very often
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Post by grafunkel on Oct 28, 2010 20:29:48 GMT 1
This thread has "stuck in my craw" for a while now, and for a variety of reasons.
There is a thread where new members can introduce themselves, and get to know other, older members... there are threads where you can talk about the guests, the convention itself, or everything the convention stands for... and yes, there are threads where you can post suggestions about F.A.C.T.S. to the organisers themselves.
So I think it's a bit cheeky of darkashelin to visit the F.A.C.T.S. main website, click through to the messageboard, register an account, create a new thread, and make a first post to inform us that she's ...
Strange. I'm anything but tech-savvy, and I'm not a young whippersnapper like many of you are, but I seem to have no problem with finding my way around the messageboard. Recently I've even become a mod here, and even those extra features aren't too difficult.
No of course not.
If you are in a course specific for webdesign, and you're not able to handle the standard UI of a proboards messageboard, perhaps you should ask those "colleges" (sic) for some help. ... And you weren't trying to get them to hire you, remember?
All in all, suggestions are welcome. But lose the passive agressive snark, and get to know the website, get to know the messageboard, and get to know the people behind it all, before you start criticizing this place, the creators, and the people hanging out here. ... By the way, what did you think of the F.A.C.T.S. convention itself, darkashelin? Did you go saturday, sunday? Got an early bird? Met some guests? ... It would be nice to hear how THAT went for you. You can always post your experience in the appropriate threads.
Thank you, and good night.
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Post by cartoonjessie on Oct 28, 2010 20:38:53 GMT 1
Art had some sassy pills this evening. :-D
In some ways, he is right though.
And yes, I also think the current design of the website is outdated. But to start off on a forum by immediately posting criticism instead of an introduction is indeed a bit... well, it gives the impression we are dealing with a smart-ass. And trust me, there's already enough smart-asses on this forum. (Myself included.)
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Post by kaydra on Oct 29, 2010 0:32:46 GMT 1
Actually the whole thing is outdated  (s)he was right on that. There's buttons to click on the top, below the banner buttons on the left, almost every picture is clickable leading to a new page, etc... It could just be cleaned up a little bit. Keep it simple. Don't stuff all the guests on the main page but keep the poster or the logo on the main page and then a bunch of links saying - What is FACTS (explain what it stands for and include history here) - Location (information about where it is and how to get there) - Activities (what is there to do - basic stuff u know will be there) - Dealers (information for vendors) - Next event (when is next facts, program, extra activities, guests, ...) - Previous Guests (who has been to facts and their info. It's good advertisement) - Gallery - Links / Banners / Promotional Stuff - Volunteering (there was mention of trying to find suitable ppl, well let them apply and be screened to show their motivation and interest  - etc A lot of things can actually be merged and could clean up everything. the forum layout...what bothers me most is that I tried every layout you made available and still I have issues with the colors. What thread have I read, where's a new post, I miss the button to "skip to first unread message". I know there might be a button that can show u all the new messages that were posted but I hate that function, I prefer looking exactly in what thread there's something new and click on it myself ^_^ Oh and my boyfriend is doing a course in webdesign too! He'll do it for less than the OP does ^_- (/joke) |
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but that wasn't possible last but one time they made some major changes. 
(s)he was right on that.
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